Well from that what i have read and heard, before the Talibans come in power, the Afgans people with their fields of narcotic were the Big narcotic dealers ,and big suppliers of america and the rest of the world. when Talibans came to power..they imidiately stopped Afgans factories of narcotic production...and those facts i think help me understand WHY the Afganis don't want the Talibans in power and WHY usa fight them trough the years.. From this point of view they are really my heroes, of good old school!
The Taliban sucks. They are not the Heroes you describe them as. They kill Girls trying to go to school. They kill their own people for no reason. Rather, the Taliban's time is running out. In Pakistan, people are finally waking up after Malala Yousufzai was shot. In a few years, the Taliban will start to lose.
Gob-smackingly good stuff. A little favorable to the Taliban, but in this War, I favor the underdog! The Genocidal US Imperial Military has forced the Taliban into the role of liberators. Down with the Occupiers!
The Taliban may pretend that they are liberators and underdogs, but just read "The Kite Runner" and you'll see an entirely different story. And it's not as simple as "it's all the U.S.'s fault." The Soviet Union messed things up decades ago.
Over the last 200 years, the British attempted to conquer Afghanistan not less than 3 times. Guess what? They failed spectacularly. Even superior technology, better intelligence, chemical weapons etc. could not subdue the Afghan resistance. These Americans, with far less respect for Afghan history, society etc. have blundered into the same trap that the Russians were stuck in (just as you have mentioned).
its true the Taliban can hold out for a very long time longer then any foreign government not hell bent on conquering the country at least. no here is a question for you how long can the support for the Taliban last with the people of Afghanistan? special when more and more Muslim are seeing them for the power hungry anti-Islam group they are? Noble Verse 45:14 Noble Verse 5:32 Noble Verse 25:68 Noble Verse 2:182
the issue is that, Taliban has been made by US, but US tries to make it expired. so they did not look further what will happen if a radical group be powerful. any way US should answer why they make tension in the region, and why they make terrorism.
Taliban bad short term planing to stop the Soviets. philosophically would it be better if USSR won?
as for tension in the region can you name a time span of more then a few year that there has not been tension in the area there limited resource and a lot of people there will almost be tension and strife until one some one can manipulate the worlds ecosystem to a T or some one invents Utopian style tech
I wish I could feel empowered by this but I am not. I don't know who the people on the top of the hourglass are supposed to be. I am forced to think that it is either the taliban, or mujahideen because of the weaponry, beards, and dress. As an Afghan i think it's necessary that I say that I don't want either of these two groups to stand as the symbols for Afghan people.
I think you have an over romanticized notion of the American Capitalist Pig notion. To be Honest, not a lot of people in America are not as you think they are, the problem in America is that the idiots scream a lot louder than the educated. This means that everyone outside of the USA borders only sees and hears what the idiots are doing. Is it right that is what happens? No. but do not categorize millions of people that are just trying to live, much the same way anybody else just wants to live, with the idiocy of the few. Really it is very insulting.
There is also the problem the american government itself is the evil entity and not the american people, but because it's the government the people are more inclined to listen to them because they are an authority figurehead which is trusted BY the people.
The government there take that concept and shit all over it basically, they don't give two shits about the people in their country.
I actually think adolf hitler while he killed alot of people was not as bad as the american government bare with me for a second, the american government has killed over 1 billion people since it's inception, why you ask? money it all comes down to money for them, hitler on the other hand he believed in something and he thought he was legitimately helping his country, although very very misguided he is nowhere near as evil as the american government since hitler probably took concepts of the american government to run his country.
Such as secret services, shadow operatives etc.
I hope you do not get angry at me or think I am a nazi for expressing a different opinion I do not condone the actions of hitler or the american government I really hope you can see it that way.
First of all I am not going to bash you because you think Hitler is a better alternative to the American Government. Just to clear that up, I will disagree with you, but I will not bash you for that.
Now onto the meat of your odd response. Is the American government corrupt? Yes and No. This is a complex situation, during the Bush administration the Government was rife with corruption and dirty dealings. Today however, more and more of this is coming to light and people in America are pushing these corrupt politicians out. The American people would love to see a congress, senate, supreme court, and even the presidential cabinet without corruption and they are working very hard to get it that way. So, yes the American Government is corrupted, but having just one person in all of it being corrupt would still mar its name and I challenge you to find a government that isn't corrupted.
Now I would like to point out a few things. First of all, the American government is a model based on even older principles established by the Greeks and Romans long before America was ever colonized. Next, Hitler fashioned his government around totalitarianism not democracy. Once Hitler seized control of the German government, he forcibly made the Nazi Party the only legal party in the country and he slaughtered many millions in his short reign. Comparatively, he killed more people than many can claim to have done in so short a span. Now, the killing of billions? I am going to assume that you received this news from a legitimate source, but to this I say, war kills people. It is something everyone knows and America is not the first country to go to war. In fact, many countries can easily claim that they have been in many more wars than America has ever fought in. So to this I would leave you with this, get over it because they are not going out of their way to imprison and slaughter those billions of people, much the way Hitler and his Nazi regime did.
Now, the conspiracy theories. I love/hate them and I will explain why. I love them because they are entertaining, some of them are based in fact and others are just down right ridiculous in their audacity. I hate them because people, typically people who cannot live without knowing the whole picture, cling to them like they are absolute fact. With that being said, I would rather say I am ignorant to the broad spectrum of events than to say that something completely false was completely true. Remember this, it is alright to not know because it makes you human, claiming to know everything though makes you look like an idiot. I am not saying you are claiming to know everything, not by a long shot, but you do cling to the people that are saying these things and all I am asking is that you attempt to get a broader view of your own before you start spewing all of the hate and rhetoric that others are spewing simply because they are screaming it the loudest.
I know this is a very long post, but you gave me a lot to work with.
I wasn't saying he was a better alternative just saying neither the american government or hitler are any better at running a country and each are just as bad as each other.
I also realise all this about hitler, and I was saying america has killed that much since it's inception due to war.
I am also saying this because it's my actual opinion on these subjects, I also realise some people will not be as mature as you are about it and go straight to flaming me because they think their government can do no wrong.
I disagree with some of what you have said because that is not how I view things I view things a little differently to that and I have not based what I have said on things I have heard but things I have observed through behaviour and such.
Yes, the American government is not perfect, namely because the politicians make it so that any good that could be accomplished with the system almost obsolete with their constant arguing over who is more right than the other. I won't argue that there is a good deal of corruption that runs rampant through it, but Hitler, well I think that a monkey could run a government better than he could.
As far as people dying in wars, it's true and the people that join their military, be it in America or otherwise, know that they very may well be called upon to die for their countries. It is a sad fact of life; as long as two groups disagree with each other there will be violence. I have learned this by watching and studying people. I don't think that the human race will ever know true peace and right now it seems that America is the bad guy, although I can't rightfully justify those claims given that no country has a history without some sort of violence.
I can certainly respect your opinion, but it won't stop me from debating the point. One last thing, do you think that the world would be a better place if everyone thought the same or simply stopped attempting to push their views down other peoples throats? I would like to think that if we stopped trying to make everyone the same as us we would live in a much better world.
I'm actually not trying to do that and you can disagree with each other and still respect the other person's opinion, like the reason there is religious war is not the ACTUAL religion itself which is what alot of people say which isn't true the thing that causes religious wars is someone not accepting that people will believe differently to themselves that is what causes it not the religion.
I have been attacked so many times over my opinion and called a nazi for stating an opinion which is different to quite a few people, I actually see things differently because I have Asperger's Syndrome and so I observe different facts about the same things you have observed.
I think it actually could be possible to reach a state of peace of every single person worked together but as you have seen that won't be happening anytime soon.
Plus I do disagree on your opinion but that doesn't mean I am going to start getting angry at you or anything I unlike alot of people can accept a difference of opinion, you are one of the extremely few on the internet who I have talked to who can legitimately accept a difference of opinion.
Okay, maybe i say to much now and wander a bit from the Subject...
It doesn't matter in any Way that not every American is a ruthless Capitalist-Pig.
What counts is that the People there did nothing to stop G.W.Bush to rise to Power, to become a Warmonger and starting a War only out of personal Will. oO
It's cursorily, but it's true.
This Man is a Warcriminal who deserves to got pulled before the international Tribunal.
For starting a War out of the Blue ( Iraq ), founded on nothing but lies and Fake-Evidences, MUTILATED countless, Iraqi Children and Innocent Citizens,
and gives a Crap about it. This is only one Example, but if the American Folk does nothing to prevent that their "Country" acts like a so called Rogue Nation, then they "are" what People think of them.
Hard, but true. This Man doesn't even get brought before Justice. Even if someone would do vigilantism/self-administered justice and would just shoot him, it would be better than as how Things are now. o0
Because this Way, the american People would demonstrate that they are not Criminals like him. But oh Well, he was a united States President and these People are called the most powerful Man's on Earth, right? Because they can do whatever they want, give a Shit about Things like international Laws, Folk- and Humanrights,
and can't get judged for Things where every other Criminal would get a Penalty from the highest international Tribunal. oO
A~and: I have talked my Mouth fuzzy with some other 'Wisenheimer' who tried to defend Soldiers no matter what Criminals they are and what ever they do.
But only because the economic climate in America is Shit to the biggest Extent, because People are Greedy and are not interested in something like a social/welfare state,
that doesn't excuse getting trained tough, grabbing a Gun and shoot/fight/kill someone other on some random Place on Earth, only because some Asshole ordered it.
No Pity for People who only fight for their own Benefit and feign Things like "wanting to free the World"...
Soldiers, Mercenarys, one and the same. There are People in the Army who would shoot you or me without asking or torture us until we are nothing more than wrecks and would boldfaced say: "I couldn't help it - i was ordered to!"
And you KNOW it!
Obama can't change that. He can't change a Country so rotten that it can even "transform" goodhearted Persons into greedy, callous Assholes...
Despise me for saying this, but i really only wonder "WHEN" America is responsible for something like a third Worldwar, or even the "real Deal" of a third Worldwar...
i am one man with one voice. ive said i dislike what he did what could ive done by my self to stop G.W bush? as for Iraq i like to think we did the world a favor have you seen what Hussein did to the Kurdish people or the methods of war he used on the Iran people?
It's a Truth that the so called Iraq-War wiped out the Regime of Saddam Hussein, who terrorized his own Landman every Day.
However, the false Reason (bring Freedom) does not Excuse the Lies and the Crime to attack a small Country for minor Motives.
It was a Crime before internal Law and Folk- and Humanrights. Only because the United are a big economic power, Criminals like G.w.Bush could get away instead of getting sustained before the highest Tribunal,
where People like Slobodan Milosevic and him belong to.
It's a Sad Truth, you know, but ALL Countrys from A til Z, from Abkhazia to Zypern,
are fu**in pretenders, hypocrites to the Bone. It's really disgusting when you notice the "History" arround you getting formed trough the Media,
and begin to know why so called "Superpowers" -are- the Superpowers they are called.
Because they can be as Criminal, arrogant, fascistic and ignorant es they want and do "as many Crimes as the want"... And can get away with that.
The rest of the World pisses themself in Fear of loosing a big trade-partner, if they would locking themself up against such a follow-up/rollback of the History like the Nazi's did with Polen,
pretending that a other Country must be attacked for Selfdefence and Stuff. I wonder if the united States will get away with such Crimes for all Eternity or if "someone someday" can manage to make the "united States" pay for their Crimes.
And that Judgement would be more painful by "hitting the Money" of everyone in the united States who is at last a small bit responsible for the political "Crime-course" of the United States since 2001,
it would be more effective to punish all People there as instead with killing People with Terror Attacks.
Because you may know ( you are living there, right? ), the Assholes who murdered over 3000 Innocent People on 9/11 by detonating lower Floors and "LET" Suicide-Fanatics fly trough Air-Defensive-Lines with hijacked Planes,
give a Shit about the Lives of People in America they pretend to defend. Such Scum can only be hit by the Money. And i hope, someday someone will bring true Justice about a Scumgroup who uses the Power of a Nation like America in Order to do what they want.
If the People in America would suffer from that, too and would be driven into even moor Poverty... well, this would be a collateral damage needed to pay for.
how can i hate some one i don't know? i can dislike you opinion but i can't really form a emotion to the faceless person behind it. but for the most part what country is not guilty of corruption and innocents death do all of them deserve collateral damage? and how would that help anyone America full of dumb@ss as it is and politicians will jump at the chance at getter there vote so if "And i hope, someday someone will bring true Justice about a Scumgroup who uses the Power of a Nation like America in Order to do what they want. If the People in America would suffer from that, too and would be driven into even moor Poverty... well, this would be a collateral damage needed to pay for." happens that will breed discontent and radical will get into office but when you get the evidence that proves every thing you just said then go for it go after all the people that where in power to do that and bring them to justice until then i won't say your wrong but i will say a disagree with you.
I am starting to think that you only get your information from a single news outlet or perhaps by hearsay. When America invaded Iraq it was on the premise that Hussein was threatening to use Weapons of Mass Destruction on US Soldiers, repeatedly. Now if this is what you are referring to as false evidence, then I suggest you do your homework. The man had huge stock piles of VX Gas, enough to kill all living creatures on the planet many times over, and this weapon is a weapon of mass destruction by UN Resolution 687. Do I like Bush? No. The man is a disgrace and butchered foreign alliances, did he have an ulterior motive for invading them, I think he did and you probably right that it was for oil. With that being said, would you sit idly by knowing that your neighbor was ruthlessly killing thousands, upon thousands of innocent people just because they had a differing point of view or religion? If so then you are no better than those you accuse. The majority of voters hated Bush in the United States and would like to see him prosecuted for a number of things.
Now please stop calling Americans evil when it is plain to see you don't actually know any of them beyond the useless drivel of 12 year olds on the internet. Because it is truly an atrocity that people like yourself would rather spread hate and discontent about an entire nation. Yes American politicians are making things difficult right now, for everybody that their influence effects. This is largely attributed to the fact that they are so far removed from society that they don't know a whole lot about what people actually want. Does the American public want a Socialist State? I don't think that they entirely do, largely due to the fact that many of them have been raised believing it is bad.
Now the problems in America stem from people pushing their agenda onto others, we have the Religious sects (which include Atheists) constantly pushing to either force people to do one thing or another. You have the extreme Liberals and extreme Republicans pushing to make things happen, not many of which are actually good things. You blame greed, which is only partially the problem, the real, overlying problem is that these people become more and more radical in their beliefs the harder and harder the opposing side pushes. This is why the Christians are now saying, and I truly feel sorry for any other religious sect in America, that their nation was founded on the principles of God and blah, blah, blah. Now this is not even remotely true, as the American founding fathers have gone down as saying that religion is going to be the death of America. Now I hope that is not true, because America has so much potential to really do things in the world. If you really want to target Americans for something; speak up against their steeply declining intellect, or the idiots who keep screaming that their side is better than the other side, you can even go so far as to point out how nationalistic they are! However, please, do not label everyone like they are politicians, which are notorious liars and thieves. When you want to talk about about greedy capitalist pigs, says American Politicians or Big Businesspeople, otherwise you just sound like another in a long line of people who are attempting to scream, rant, rave, and push their agenda onto another.
I'm not getting my Information from a single News-Source...
In Fact, i knew such Things already when the dirty Iraq-War startet and my thoughts were approved every and every Time again, six whole Years.
The Taliban and the "USA" are pretty much the same. Both Sides have evil People fighting against others with evil Methodes.
People like the Taliban would kidnap People all arround the World, too. To fly them in Countrys where Torture is known Daily Routine and where People get mutilated to Cripples mentaly or physical - or even murdered.
The Taliban have only not the Possibility to do this... this i limited to the "Power" of the CIA.
And no matter how much you write here, you can't change that Fact.
I am not arguing the fact that people suffered in Guantanamo, many Americans didn't like it either and it is finally shut down. Otherwise some of these famous torture methods include; giving a diabetic terrorist sugar-free cookies, having honestly pleasant chats with them, and being generally hospitable towards them. This is because it is well known that many Taliban,, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist operatives are trained to resist conventional torture. Does this mean that other, more barbaric methods weren't employed? No, everybody in the world that is semi-educated knows that there were atrocities committed there that no human should endure. I do not, nor should anybody else, condone this sort of "interrogation" method. I am sure many would agree with that sentiment, but mudslinging is not the way to go about solving a problem. As, I am sure, many can also agree with. Remember that the more hate you spread, the more hate there will be in the world.