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EU and Greece economic crisis by Latuff2 EU and Greece economic crisis by Latuff2
Editorial cartoon for Greek newspaper Dromos: [link]

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:iconnamezong:
namezong Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013
Yup, looks  as it is.
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:iconwolfwithglasses:
WolfwithGlasses Featured By Owner May 21, 2013
The joke about all this is, that the german economy is "oh so strong", the only reason why the economy was kept alive over the crisis is that the wages have been lowered and at some point projects got pushed through that allows to force people to work in so called 1-euro jobs. For this they take unemployed people, those receive a amount of unemployment money and when they refuse to work up to 30 hours per week (for 1 euro the hour) they get stripped of the unemployment money. So basically the economy got fat and healthy while even lost their jobs so that the employers could "hire" cheap working slaves. The whole system we have in germany is not meant to get people jobs, it is just to keep them busy and silent.
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rickiecider Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2012
how "touching"...
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:iconhyta:
Hyta Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2011
Greece should be really fat and lazy on this picture - they have spent more than they earn for many years now!
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:iconmarahuta:
Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
Greeks didn't do this damage to them selves. The government and the politicians did. Now it's dangerous for them to walk unprotected down the roads cuase people throw eggs and in some cases stomes (would love to see a watermelon)
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:iconhyta:
Hyta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
It's hard to find a system in which the people are more responsible for who is in charge than in a democracy.

The truth is that every democratic nation has a government it deserves.
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:iconmarahuta:
Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
Every nation has a government which more powerful countries place.
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:iconhyta:
Hyta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
You gave up all the responsibility for your country so you can complain about "more powerful countries".
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:iconmarahuta:
Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
WOW you really don't know how most of the time governments are placed. You're more stupid than I thought...
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:iconhyta:
Hyta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
"You're more stupid than I thought..." is the ultimate argument in a primary school. Congratulations on being right and smart :)
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:iconmarahuta:
Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Yeah well. It still makes you infinatly stupid for not knowing that many governments are elected by superior countries.
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YanJ100 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry but Greeks are neither fat, nor lazy. "For instance, maximum weekly working time is clearly set at 48 hours in 15 EU countries – Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, the Netherlands, Romania, Slovenia and the UK. However, Germany provides for the same threshold through the combined specification of maximum daily working time and compulsory weekly rest periods. Other Member States indicate a lower upper limit for weekly working time, which is usually 40 hours –Austria, Bulgaria, Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Spain and Sweden. An exception in this case is Belgium, where the upper weekly working time is set at 38 hours." [link]

What country are you from again?
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:iconhyta:
Hyta Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
Of course they are neither fat, nor lazy. I was talking about their economy. They were consuming more than they were producing for a long time - they wouldn't be in so much debt otherwise.

You can't be serious about this "maximum weekly working time". It has nothing to do with reality - it only teaches people to cheat. If you have an enterprise, you work 24/7. If you work with your mind your work time is often ridiculously short or long, it's hard to tell. If the market value of your job is below minimum wage you will work harder or longer, because there will be so many eager to get your job and earn more than the market says they deserve. In some jobs people spend half of their time on facebook, but the other half they work well. Work efficiency is also an issue. Soviet Russia had many people working hard, but it was just wasting time because there was no free enterprise.
To sum up: weekly working time is bureaucratic bullsh*t.

I'm from Poland.
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YanJ100 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
According to Forbes (a study in 2008) Greece comes second in the OECD's rankings with 2,052 hours worked on average each year, and just behind is a trio of Eastern European nations: Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland. The U.S. is also above the OECD average of 32 nations, coming at No. 9, with 1,797 hours worked on average each year.
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RoomieAU Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
And this is why Denmark did the right thing, by letting the people vote NO to the euro B-)
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:iconhyta:
Hyta Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2011
The only difference for a country that doesn't have Euro is that no one cares if it goes bankrupt. Germany and others are forced to help Greece because of Euro. Greece without Euro would be left alone with its debts and would probably bankrupt sooner.
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RoomieAU Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2011
I guess Greece would have ended up in this mess anyway, seeing as how they started having debt problems way before joining the euro zone.
Im just appreciating the benefits that comes with having ones own currency, having more control is a usefull asset in difficult times
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NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011   General Artist
It's funny cause it's true :XD:
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Monsterkatze Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nah, it isn't only like this!
We germans have to save now a lot of money after giving so much to greece!
It wasn't easy for us to help.
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schneebaer Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2010
greece's own fault. corrupt politicians and civilians. dont pay taxes and receive a pension when they get 60. and now we have to pay for it. how about a "thank you" for our 22 millions?
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:iconnorwayswedendenmark:
NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2011   General Artist
How about a "No to bailouts"
Bailouts just puts a country in more debt! Greece should leave the Euro as soon as possible and not be thankful.
Damn undemocratic EU. Glad Norway is out!
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:iconmarahuta:
Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
a recent study showed that if we're kicked out of EU it will cost you guys 2 trillion. You might wanna think about that amount...
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:iconnorwayswedendenmark:
NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011   General Artist
Well I'm not sure if that study is true, but anyway, What is the alternative? To pull another bail out? No that isn't a good idea is it? Cause Greece can not survive in the Eurozone. It just doesn't work!
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:iconmarahuta:
Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011
Ok. So I have to explain this in some other way. If Greece is kicked out the market will blow-up. Greece will most probably go bank-crupt...then Italy, Spain, and other countries and then guess what ? Yours will go down too. They are not helping us because WE need help. They are helping us because if they don't it's then end for EVERYONE.
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NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011   General Artist
If Greece go bankrupt, then it everything would be better. You know why? because than countries could continue their marked without worrying about Greece.
Look at Iceland. They were in a shitty situation too, but they let those banks go bust and now they have gotten a much better economy than the Eurozone countries.

Greece should never ever have joined the euro. The reason they got in is not because the euro was about economy, it was because the euro was about politics.
If you continue down this road than the EU and the eurozone countries are doomed. My country isn't in the Euro so we can govern our own money policy, unlike Greece
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Marahuta Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2011
It seems your more of an idiot than I thought...Why don't you go to google and search " What happens if Greece goes bankrupt ? ". Let me help you abit [link]

If your country has given ANY money to Greece, it's still gonna get pushed into the mud-pile with the rest of us...
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NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011   General Artist
I know that, and you don't need to throw insults on me just because I disagree with you. I know that if Greece defaults many will lose their jobs and countries will have huge problems, but what's the alternative? Let Greece be in the Euro? Than they have to pull out another bail out again and then again!
Who is going to pay for Greece? The Germans? They are already so pissed at them that they are throwing hatred towards Germans with Greek parents in Germany who have never visited Greece, so that won't work will it? Greece paying up for the debts themselves? No that won't work either. This debt is going to the grandchildren of us. They have to pay for a mistake that the EU and the Greek politicians made! The Euro was also always about politics and never economics. [link] [link]
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schneebaer Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
How my political view changed within a year :D Now I support the rescue of Greece. And I think that Greece should not be forced to save so much money because that kills the economy.
Glad to be in the EU :P
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:iconnorwayswedendenmark:
NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011   General Artist
Why are you happy to be in a undemocratic organisation?

Death to the EUSSR!
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schneebaer Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011
It's not that undemocratic. EU has a parliament and the national governments (elected by the European peoples) decide the rest. And everyone's happy and free... well except for Greece right now.
In my opinion we need the EU to have influence in the world. A dozen mini-countries cannot compete with the big US, big China, big Russia.
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NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2011   General Artist
It's not Democratic just because it has a parliament.
Normally it's the parliament who makes laws and he civil servants that in act laws.
In the EU the parliament vote for laws and doesn't do anything more. They don't make laws. And now with the Lisbon treaty things are even worse. Now, if a law gets passed, even if this law goes against your constitution, it gets through. And it was put to referendums too, but when the French and Dutch said No they ignored it and when the Irish voted No, they were forced to vote again. And many countries actually signed the treaty before even reading it!

Van rompoy and Catherine Ashton has not even been democraticly elected. It's just a bunch of politicians that wants what's best or themselves.

You're right on that we elect politicians, but that doesn't make it democratic. We vote for people to press button. We don't vote for them to make laws. That's the big issue.
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schneebaer Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011
The national governments still decide the path of the EU. European peoples voted conservative parties for their national government. Lots of conservative govs means conservative EU. So the people still decides. The problem is that one country loses power because 27 countries now share this power. So one country has less influence while influence in the world grows.

You're right, the parliament's rights are weak compared to national's. But they were even weaker in the past and this has improved a lot during the time. This shows that more improvements are still possible. But to make improvements possible, we need national parties which are supporters of the EU. Conservative parties usually don't like participation of the people. So they probably won't give the EP more rights.

One of the most important things is that the EU secures the peace of Europe. Think back to the time of WWII and even before. There have always been wars within Europe, the simple man was suffering. Now EU-states are dependent from each other which makes it unnecessary to fight wars. It would be against their own interests.
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NorwaySwedenDenmark Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2011   General Artist
Just look at this video. It has German subtitles so you'll understand what they are saying [link]
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LongLiz Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
lol this is madness! (i'm greek btw)
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:iconliquidnerve:
LiquidNerve Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
Maybe they should stop bitching and whining about all the budget cuts and tax increases. Eastern Europeans did and their economies, for the most part, has fared much better than Greece and other Western European nations during this economic crisis.
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aim--cloud Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
lol
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MayaBlueSky Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2010
This is very well made. :)
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:iconzergler:
Zergler Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2010
Good, but the cross in the Greek flag is white
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cicirya Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2010
what the hell is about turks? its just about capitalism and damn eu
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hugerabbit Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2010
poor greece lol
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ont Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2010
Probably infected by we Turks, damn...
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matiasmatiasmatias45 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2010
Jajajajajajaja

Well done!!!

Salutes from Argentina!!
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DarkPrince2007 Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Poor Greece... in the ancient, this country had all the richnesses, and now they had poverty.
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LongLiz Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I know but there's a reason for all this...Turkey...Turkey completely destroyed us... We would be just like we were in Ancient Greece without Turkey -.-
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avaruus-apina Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010
Excuse me, but what does Turkey has to do with the fact that for decades all of your goverments have handeled your economy poorly and even falsified statistics to get cheaper loans?
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LongLiz Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not so easy for a country to develop a good goverment system if its general development was in an unimproved state for 400 years because of occupation.
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avaruus-apina Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010
Oh come on. You can't blame Turkey for your current economic difficulties. My country (Finland) has been independent from Russian and Swedish rule les than a 100 years and we have managed to keep our economy in good shape.
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:iconlongliz:
LongLiz Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't 100% blame Turkey, but it ιs one of the reasons. Besides, Greece was released on 1821. Things were really messed up back then, development after 400 years was really difficult. But in 1900-1910 development was much easier. Not to mention the Greece's suffering by Germany in 1940-1944.
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DarkPrince2007 Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Wowow what did you mean? What does Turkey cares with Greece? That's nonsense D:
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:iconlongliz:
LongLiz Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I will explain everything but first tell me something...Do you consider 400 YEARS many or not?
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