This cartoon is so good exactly because it is controversial. It gets people talking and forces us to take time to think about a hard subject. Before people get worked up and comment on an image this provocative, they need to take some time to think deeply about the artist was trying to portray. Not all cartoons are meant to laugh at. They can be thought provoking too. The passing of 3000 or so innocent people is tragic, but I think everyone, and especially Americans, need to take a seriously look at what happened that day, beyond the stories on CNN.
Consider this, over 100,000 innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq alone since America started this atrocious war ([link]). One hundred thousand. Why is this not all over the American news? Why does this not sicken every American citizen as they were on 9/11? The idea of a national identity is a fallacy. Nations are imaginary lines drawn on one planet that is occupied by a fragile human species. There is no difference between your neighbour across the street and your neighbour across the ocean. The sooner we wake up from this fantasy the better off each and every one of us will be.
I believe it entirely you would see this some other way if your family members or your relatives would have been lost into the attack. Towards us this is called dead person vilification, you towards you for "resistance".
Exactamente. como dijo uno antes, eso fue un ataque de bandera negra muy bien elaborado por ese mismo gobierno. Sin este atentado no hubieran podido ejercer su invasión en Afganistan y empezar la patraña de guerra global contra el terrorismo. Donde les hace falta posicionarse, manda allí agentes para perpetrar ataques terroristas para desestabilizar al gobierno y colocar al paramilitar o cabeza de turno que ellos prefieran. Por tanto creo que el dibujo, en mi opinión, se equivoca al mostrar el tio Sam molesto...porque tendría que darle un placer enorme ese avión metido por el culo
Un saludo Latuff! espero que comprendas el mensaje..
So what would you do if, say, someone did something in Portugal that cost thousands of lives and someone made fun of it?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not burned up about this, this guy's a complete dick and I've known that for the longest time. I'm just asking what you'd do in your country if a landmark wound up taking down 3000+ people and someone did something like this.
Un... less I'm missing one other than the Outlaw and whatnot then I can't imagine, no.
Don't get me wrong, a time'll come when this is another thing to look back on, though, I can't see much to laugh about in this instance. Our kids and their kids will look back like we did on Pearl Harbor, the Holocaust or Hiroshima and Nagasaki, just another page in history to either take to heart or shrug off. Hell, even now there are some things I've offered a chuckle to regarding it. ( Family Guy, AMV Hell 4, ya know. XP )
Only problem I'm lookin' at here is that this guy's no better than any other political cartoonist. Dude's just looking to start shit, at which point the old saying 'No such thing as bad publicity' comes into play. I've kept quiet on his comics up 'til now, but this one's downright fucked up. Maybe he can't understand it since he wasn't here, but there's more to America than it's pocket book. ( Wish the politicians could figure that out, I sadly can't disagree there that 9/10 politicians are in it for themselves. ) I'm bothered because I saw, for however brief a time it lasted before life returned to normal, people raising their heads high in pride of being Americans, casting aside all this race and religious bullshit that's risen up ( especially with the last election. Ugh. ), and truly becoming one people.
I'm a hopeful, hopeless idealist, yeah, but to me this is like spitting in the face of every person in the United States, to everyone who was in those towers, the Pentagon, and the ones in the plane that went down in that field. I'm not honestly sure what I think of the war that's come of this, but I do know that 9/11 was a day displaying great tragedy and the true essence of humanity, helping each other when we need each other most, showing that, underneath every petty difference between us that there are still a lot of genuinely good, or at least not bad, people in the world.
Er, sorry, got a little lengthy there, but, I think like a book. XD; PARAGRAPHS!
But you don't understand! It's a cartoon. The job of a cartoon is to get something serious or recent, news, TV shows, anything, and make a caricature out of it. I think he represents something like "it was a pain in the ass" or by uncle Sam's expression, something like "what the hell? Where did you come from"
It's known that Bush did a lot of damage to the American way of living. But at least the cartoons punish him accordingly.
I doubt he would make fun of the tragedy. But please, risen up a little. Even tough we weren't there we still lived it trough the TV, do you think that's not enough? TV reporting broadcasts every single day, every single time of the day. Talking about conspiracies and replaying images just for the pure shock of the viewers.
It's not exactly the same, but the media sure did their job covering all of the act. Why don't you blame them? I mean, seriously. He did a cartoon, FOX did a whole broadcast for like 6 months or so. Who's to blame about all of this hype? The Media. Not the artists that try to amuse us with something that might even open our eyes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there weren't people all over the world who didn't feel it. Just when it's not your own country there's a certain sense of detachment I've become aware of. I didn't mean to imply that Americans were the only ones who had a grasp on the situation, the pain or anything like that. I've looked through the death tolls and seen names and people from dozens of countries.
I suppose the reason I have a hard time seeing this as amusing is because of a lot of his works prior to this. It's painted a picture of the type of message he sends, and I can, thinking about your words, also understand how else this can be interpreted. I'm not wild about Bush. Let's be frank, dude was an idiot. Not happy about our current president either, or the other option we had through the election.
You are right though, at the core of it all the media is to blame. It was well enough at the start, naturally everyone wants answers, and whatever came after that on new information would've been fine. But there are a lot of yellow journalists out there who just make money off of playing to please the public ear, rather than tell us what we need to know, the facts.
I will bow my head on this one in particular. I read the image with the history of images I've seen this guy produce rather than just the individual piece, so for that I apologize... Yeah, 9/11 was a HUGE pain in the ass. XD
On an ending note, I do enjoy these discussions. It's always great to hear from another side. =3
Making a warship with the remains of the WTC should have been an insult, but nobody complained because everyone was so eager to take revenge on the arabs that they saw it as something acceptable. Bush told the rescue workers at ground zero that all the world would hear them.... and they heard! They heard the sound of gunfire, bombs falling and people dying on behalf of those who perished that day, because that's what became of 9/11, the evidence that USA wasn't untouchable, and all that came after, the payback of a nation who wanted blood in return for damaging their image in the world. There is no message of peace and conscience in the doings after 9/11, only wars, death, torture and lies and, I believe, that's more insulting and disrespectful to those who died than any drawing, speech or film. Using their death to justify the death of other innocents is overwhelming, is the logic of terrorism. And that's what this drawing is trying to show, from my point of view, what a slap to the face of arrogance 9/11 was to the goverment and it's citizens.
I read a lot of comments against this piece. I like it because it makes fun of the US goverment. NOT the US people.
Why americans are so sensitive to the 9/11? They keep making fun about the swine flu that hit Mexico in May... A lot of people died and ARE DIYING due the swine flu and I've seen some US t-shirt saying horrible things TO THE MEXICANS. Now that's disrespect.
About the piece: Great work. Love the political implications of this XD
The answer's in your own words, believe it or not. Pardon my butting in, just saying.
It's perspective. It hits home hard for people in their own country, but it's easy to shrug off in another.
9/11 occurs, America weeps, some circles in the Middle East throw parties, the rest of the world generally says 'Those poor people' and moves on with their day.
Hurricanes hit the Gulf Coast, the people there panic, seek shelter, gather what's important to them. The rest of the world just sees another big, watery tornado.
The war between Israel and Palestine in the Gaza Strip back in January, the rest of the world says 'For shame' or 'It's their right', but no one intervenes or cares to on either side and the politicians just waggle fingers at each other.
'Different strokes for different folks' is the saying. Sadly, with the labels we have between countries like we do between our own people within the countries, it's very hard to unify the world on something, when it takes a tragedy, and epidemic or a natural disaster just to unify a country.
Doing September 11 2001 attacks with nothing but box cutters is logically impossible (for cave dwellers) since the Security and surveillance of the USA were Impossible to bypass by cave dwellers, even in that time.
hard to not be cynical about 911 after the rightwing have made it in to a kind of jesus on the cross excuse for every recent US crime from the wars in Iraq and afghanistan, to taking away our civil liberties.